tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32478074.post7258456052892351160..comments2023-08-29T04:54:14.413-07:00Comments on Porcelain Porn: Vulgar Victorians and Blushing EdwardiansThe Ticcy Knitterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03474448367731669652noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32478074.post-36890776643513087382008-06-02T10:53:00.000-07:002008-06-02T10:53:00.000-07:00meesa tinks u is taking da micky. how wude!meesa tinks u is taking da micky. how wude!The Ticcy Knitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474448367731669652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32478074.post-19076800386781109882008-06-02T02:08:00.000-07:002008-06-02T02:08:00.000-07:00Darling, I think your Wiki is showing ;-)Darling, I think your Wiki is showing ;-)Callumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17848777273108328886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32478074.post-84097217518335761732008-06-02T00:44:00.000-07:002008-06-02T00:44:00.000-07:00an interesting comment Callum - and i'm sure you'r...an interesting comment Callum - and i'm sure you're correct that home crafts was nowhere near as big an industry as say today's QVC generation would know it. But the fact that you've never seen any "how to" manuals or contemporary adverts for materials and supplies may be a red herring as just because the retail industry wasn't advertising specifically to crafters, doesn't mean there weren't the materials available to them - after all, were there manuals and kit catalogues available to prisoners of war who made trench art from bullet casings or matchsticks? No, but they still did it. The truth in the answer maybe that it was around this time that schools and colleges of arts/crafts were springing up around the country and organisations such as the Home Arts and Industries association (started by Eglantyne Louisa Jebb in collaboration with Mary Fraser Tytler in 1881)helped to fund their teaching.<BR/><BR/>I did managed to track down one quote about someone who contributed a great deal to pottery in America, "Rookwood Pottery was founded by Maria Longworth Nichols (later Mrs. Bellamy Storer, Jr.) in 1880, forming the business in Cincinnati, Ohio in an old abandoned schoolhouse bought for her by her father which she named Rookwood after the family country estate. She was one of a group of talented society women in Cincinnati, Ohio, who painted blank china as a hobby and which prompted her to go into business" This small example doesn't show how widespread the hobby was, but the fact that it is evidenced here suggests that it wasn't some secretive underground Kraftwerk sect who bought materials off the black market. Perhaps there are some knowledgable scholars out there who can settle the debate for us?The Ticcy Knitterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03474448367731669652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32478074.post-78076495392828606892008-06-01T19:10:00.000-07:002008-06-01T19:10:00.000-07:00I know I've said this to you already but I'm still...I know I've said this to you already but I'm still not convinced. I'm absolutely sure that there were people who made a hobby of porcelain painting in the late 19th century but the way that trend is talked about today seems to me to tend towards overemphasising how widespread it was. I just don't see evidence for porcelain painting being anywhere near as widespread in late Victorian England as say even scrapbooking. I've never seen adverts for paints or materials in Victorian magazines, I've never seen a single contemporary book on the subject, I've never seen an aticle in a contemporary magazine telling you how to do it. There is, obviously, the physical evidence of the objects themselves and, like I say, I'm sure it was done, but I worry that we end up making it seem more significant a thing than it actually was. Nice pots tho... ;-)Callumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17848777273108328886noreply@blogger.com